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Notes For Eben Pagan’s "Connected" Program: Session 1

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Do people want to be "Connected" to you or do you push them away?

Hey you,

It’s #2.

I’ve been meaning to share these personal improvement notes with you because I believe it’s of massive importance to the success of not only your business life but to the success of your life as a whole.

What Eben covers in his “Connected” program has shown this nerd what he’s been doing to sabotage relationships throughout his entire life. For most of my life I was flying blind because I didn’t learn any of this stuff in school or from my family. Hopefully you haven’t made as many mistakes as I have and this program only serves to show you how to be an even more attractive human being.

Connected: Session 1

Being connected could possibly be the most important asset to you and your career.

Question: In any arena in life what separates the amateurs from the professionals?

Answer: Pro’s are always focused on building their assets and their resources.

The reason 95% of golf players can’t compete with Tiger woods is because he focuses and has focused throughout his life, more time than the average person building up his assets.

Question: What are the assets you need to build to consider yourself a professional in your area of interest?

Knowledge isn’t the only thing. Almost everyone you compete with or interact with has access to knowledge and in this day and age it’s usually free. It’s a commodity. What is an asset in this day and age are the relationships you have in your field.

If you master relationship building this can catapult you into the top 1-2% of your field.

Why is this so?

One of the reasons is because we’re shifting from a physical, labor dominated culture to an economy that has been called the “Information Economy.”

In this paradigm the assets are knowledge/information and relationships. And if you’re the one with super premium information and high quality relationships, you’re gonna win the game because you can always turn assets into money and the majority of your market that you compete with are made up of people who never turn their money into assets.

Most people, as soon as they get some value through either a paycheck or a new credit card, a bonus, usually find something to spend it on(Does the expression: “Money burning a hole in my pocket,” sound familiar?). And yet what they buy is almost never an asset that appreciates in value.

What this program is meant to do is help you see that your community or connections are an asset that can be turned into any kind of value that you choose whether it be financial or friendships.

Super high end masterminds/groups usually require that you do or… have done what they’ve done to kinda prove you’re on their level. Think about the military. For the majority of people who spend years in the military, those years will mark the pinnacle of their discipline, effectiveness and personal growth.

Why is this so?

Because when they immerse themselves an environment that demands that they step up and reach for the best that’s inside them, EVERY DAY, pretty soon they’re playing at level normal/average people could never fathom.

The peers and leaders they’ve connected with hold them to an incredibly high standard. And when they finish serving and go back home, it’s likely that the majority of their small minded, normal, average friends and family will make them guilty if they pursue excellence.

People who are content with bad habits and negative thinking hate it when someone does better than they do. Some people voice this directly but the most common way this behavior shows up is the person smiles to your face and talks shit behind your back.

“DIE FRIEND REPLACEMENTS!!!”

They do so because they fear losing you as a friend or looking bad in comparison to you. And if you start hanging out with top performers, watch out. Your old friends’ll wanna scalp them evil friend replacements for poaching their buddy or contacts.

What petty people don’t understand about connections is that if you connect the right person to someone else, you don’t lose anything. If you go buy a latte, you lose your money and once you’ve downed the latte, you’ve lost that too. With knowledge and connections, the more of it you give away, the more you have.

Connectedness is your path to vast amounts of wealth/fulfillment.

Being connected is the most important factor to long-term business success now and in the future. Being connected isn’t an accident, it’s the result of a set of simple processes and actions that anyone can learn and do.

Eben & Dave believe that if they can do it, anyone can and that it’s the steps they talk about and explain that sound counter-intuitive that are gonna work best.

You must overcome any psychological blocks to being CONNECTED. Next, you must understand the systematic process of how human friendships form and then master it. Finally you’ve gotta use the CONNECETED system to connect to influential people – then create a community with them.

“The Psychology of Getting CONNECTED”

The Friendship Formula

Eben has found that a lot of the people he knew who were un-successful, were also bad at making friends and that people who were very successful were respected and admired.

Sounds like common sense right?

Mental and physical disease are all too common in our culture these days. Even though our standard of living and options are increasing, we’re still in a funk. Studies show this is in part to friendships and human relationships declining.

Research shows that in America that the average person has .75 best friends, confidants they can confide in. That means 25% of Americans don’t have someone to lean on. Why is this so?

Up until the 21st century people lived in small towns and your community was where you found connections and as the population grew and more people were commuting, the depth of community declined here in the U.S.

The reason this is an issue is because community is the basic building block to getting anything done. With the absence of community people resort to throwing themselves into work and they see their income rise but the correlation to increase in income and happiness rising with it, only stay in sync until you hit around the $35,000.00 mark then it plateaus.

This shows up in people who make more and more money but they’re not happier.

What Is Friendship?

Friendship is a combination of 5 key elements…

Connection: Usually starts with something you two have in common. Fear in this area shows up when you ask yourself “What do I have to offer?

Self Disclosure: Taking the risk of letting someone in on something about you that you hide from 99% of people you interact with. There’s a fine line that you walk with this between revealing something that makes you sound too weird and something that’s meaningful. Fear shows it’s face in this area when we feel like we’re being judged or rejected.

The Dialogue of Giving & Getting: A back and forth of putting energy into the friendship bank and taking energy out of the friendship bank. Fear shows up here when you feel like you’re being taken advantage of or ripped off.

The Polarity of Being an Individual & of Being Part of a Group: People like to think for themselves and make their own decisions and yet when two or more people come together they’re a self organizing system and they become an entity. Kind of like a ant separated from it’s colony will die, but while surrounded by millions of other ants, equipped with minimal communication while accomplishing amazing things for a being so small.  This starts happening with us when we join with one or more people.

When we go too far in one direction or the other we risk losing ourselves or the friendship. Fear shows up here when you feel like you’re losing your identity.

Creation of a Unique Shared Space Within a Group (Ultimately Creating That Group): This is where fusion happens and synchronicity begins and people start using the same words and sharing hobbies and viewpoints and tastes which leads to you creating your own little subculture. Fear pokes it’s head up here when you ask “Who am I to launch a group?”

We all have these fears.

How Friends Both Affect and Effect Each Other:

We’re affected by the people we surround ourselves by a degree that we never thought possible.

Most of your decisions are driven by emotion, how you feel inside. What the people around you do, affects your emotions constantly. People in essence push your buttons on programs you’ve been running since you were a kid.

Effects are tied to the results achieved which is what actually happens as a result of the people you hang out with.

You become who you surround yourself with. And whether it’s accomplished consciously or unconsciously, you become them. Your personality and persona really reflects a bunch of little pieces of people surrounded yourself with or books you studied in the past.

Illusion causes you to think you chose who you are but if you take a hard look and line yourself up to the people you’ve been influenced by, you’d see that you were an average of all those people. Not only do you become those people but you also get the effects of how they live their life.

Take the 5 people you hang out with most and average out their weight, money, study habits, pretty much anything and that’s what you’ll have showing up in your life. And, this probably matches your level of self-esteem. Core Point… Whether you choose your friends or not, they are affecting and effecting you very directly the results you get in life.

What’s awesome is that it’s possible to re-invent yourself.

Most people are only born once. They stumble onto a program they grow comfortable with and they latch onto and hang onto it for the rest of their life. 5% of people are what Warren Bennis calls Twice Borners. These are people who take conscious control of who they are and re-define themselves.

If you could define yourself in anyway possible, what would it be? If this was a play and you’re the lead character, who would be in that play?

Most people believe they have no power to change or… they fear the hell out of it.

A small percentage of people believe nothing is permanent about our life and that it’s here for us to mold it the way we’d like and it might as well be as awesome as possible. This small band of people have often found it was easier to do it this way and that they’re having so much fun doing so, they can’t believe it.

Right now we’re in the third great renaissance.

The first happened in Greece where if you happened to speak the right language and we’re male, you got to experience democracy, chemistry, philosophy. But for the majority, they lived a sheltered life where they worked the farm or whatever job they had, ate, and slept.

The next renaissance was in Europe and the same thing happened where a few people got together and discovered art, poetry, and architecture, philosophy, the birth of the scientific method but most people had no access to any of this even if they had an interest in it.

Right now is the only time in history that no matter who you are male, female, young, old, no matter what language you speak, no matter your education, whether you’re from the right family or not, that everyone gets to play.

If people today would recognize that they were born at the exact perfect time for the first time in history and that it’s tippable they might experience a whole new reality and appreciation for what’s wrong or right with their life.

With this realization comes great responsibility because with great power, comes great responsibility and who are we not to exploit this gift?

Why Friendship is At Risk?

We’re down to an average of .75% of best friends. Families are breaking down. Neighbors don’t know each other in America.

With this being the case, people you work with end up being who you’re closest to. Yet, when you mix friendship and work, just as what happens with couples who work with each other, you grow tired of seeing each other so much and the relationship suffers because of it.

Social Networking Sites are helping to erode relationships also. Some kids can easily spend 3 hours or more on these sites. This is 3 hours the kid isn’t out playing with kids in person or hanging with his family.

This isn’t real socializing. It’s fake. This is the equivalent of playing a football video game and saying that you’re playing football. Not the same.

Don’t accept fake friendships. Build real ones. These sites can serve as tools but never forget that relationships are one to one, face to face or in groups in person, even over the phone is better than computers.

Friendships Are a ‘Tug Of War’

When you interact with a person it really shows you another side of yourself. It helps you see a lot of things you didn’t want to look at. This is good to know because when you start hanging with people who are more evolved or successful than you it’s gonna challenge you in a positive way.

Some of it’s gonna feel uncomfortable. Keep tugging. The development you go through will end up being some of the most rewarding of your life.

How People Connect With Each Other

When people meet each other we’re scanning people with an apparatus that’s developed over millions of year that allows you to figure out if a person is a friend or a foe, what they’re about.

There’s a lot of benefits to this AND obstacles because when we jump to conclusions and make these decisions about people in the blink of an eye, we pigeon hole them and put them in box that’s hard to get them out of it.

This means if we want to build friendships, we want to put this process aside and consciously look for connections. Commonality causes this, the more unusual or weird the better. This is different than someone who’s just your boss or someone you work with.

Look to connect with people on a level that most people don’t get.

Start thinking of the parts of you as the guys at Zappos.com would put it, are a little weird. Things that if you connected with another person on, would be really interesting. Dave Logan calls this the NC1701 Effect.

The NC1701 was the first Star Trek Enterprise. Only a fellow Trekkie would have this fact handy. You need an inventory of these to share with people which may allow you to end up meeting someone, sharing the same weird interest and then having that feeling like you’ve known them you’re whole life.

How To Connect With Groups of Others

First, learn how to make friends with anyone. Next, you evolve to helping people make friends with each other. Then you can help groups make friends with each other.

When this happens you become a three legged stool instead of an unstable one or two legger. You do this much the same way you would with building friendship one on one. You share a commonality, you disclose an interest, you give and get, you notice the polarity of the individual and group dynamic, which creates a whole new group.

This is the end of Session 1. Please flip the the cassette over and click here to see Session 2…

Talk soon,

Note Taking Nerd #2

PPS. If you liked what you see here and want the full set of these personal improvement notes on Eben Pagan’s Connected course, you should definitely click here to go check this out

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  • Tim Birch

    Thanks for opening up the can of worms.
    Are we fake people having fake relationships? Mostly.

    Authentic? Not! Stuffy, uptight and false to themselves. Nudists do not like you taking their pictures. Why is that?

    Guilt, fear and shame. Way cool way to control the cattle.
    Oh, the guilty pleasure of getting a obscure Dr. Who reference.(Yes, Cybermen can be defeated with gold. But, only if fired from a glitter gun.)

    Advice to use. Take notes on your friends. Start the ‘I like because’ list like in Chicken Soup book. Also more information you can ref b4 you meet again, use a Farley File(President used to read file on people before meeting again to appear to be remembering)

    So who are your friends and what do you know about them? Favorite foods, colors, dis-likes. Collect info to remind them later and build a deeper connection. They’ll think you have a great memory too! Feel free to invent some good stuff that never happened. Most folks don’t remember much so slip in some goodies.(Dr. Bandler loves that stuff)I swear I did not…with… And yet they are certain I was the guy.

    Chairman Covey’s dreaded ‘Emotional Bank Account’. Deposits better exceed withdraws. Not returning my calls, that costs you. Miss a appointment, not happy making. Having your way with my now ex-girlfriend? Gee Kurt we don’t talk much anymore.

    My definition of a friend is kinda harsh: cover my back in a knife fight. I will pick you up from the hospital after you wreck the truck and get a blood test for your Extreme DUI. 30 days in the hole sucks. Sheriff Joe a friend of yours? “Come here on vacation, leave on Probation.”

    I recommend you map out your ‘connections’ and file the information. Then ask ‘Who else have knowledge of my friends?’ Get help with ‘I like because’ lists. Learn NLP meta-programs! I am so Moving Away from(not really;) Put people in boxes for fun and profit.(not real boxes, that be Undertakers Job)

    Long Copy sells because they think it is all about them. And they are right when it comes to the ‘I like because’ list! I have to check with Lisa see if she still has hers.

    “I like the Nerds because they always deliver more than can possibly be expected.”

    Hopefully you cover how often you need to contact people to maintain connections. Posting once a month is just not enough to keep the connections strong. Train your friends to treat you nicer.

    Tim,
    the 150 proof guy

    PS I say send out your Christmas cards in July. and then again in December!(send some to friends you’d like to have. Just like in the psyche test Dr. Kevin Hogan did when he was teaching)

    Damn it! I did this instead of my project!!!

    • http://mynotetakingnerd.com Note Taking Nerd #2

      Tim,

      One program I’ve found that’s helped me go deep with friends, family and clients has been Tony Robbin’s Creating Lasting Change workbook.

      There’s all kinds of questions in there that take you deep (meta-programs, beliefs, values) into the thinking of someone and help stimulate conversational magic. Eben’s program wasn’t what I expected and I’m pleasantly surprised. It’s light years beyond “Networking” and is almost entirely focused on fixing you so that what you bring to any interaction is worthy of world class company.

      As for your question of how often do you need to contact people to maintain connections, if you’re writing a blog and that’s the center of your marketing hub and all sites rotate around it, it shouldn’t be less than once a week. Marketers like Early to Rise, Copyblogger and The Total Package show up 6 days a week, sometimes twice a day (one for the content, the other for an offer). And, they don’t just settle for RSS feed. They want email addresses to send offers to and to pull you to the site.

      Thanks for telling me I’m being a lazy bum with the site! :-) Now get to work on your project you goofball. No excuses soldier.

      Talk soon,
      Note Taking Nerd #2

      UPDATE: Just got an email today that says Copyblogger’s going to a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday schedule and taking long weekends off for the remainder of the summer.

  • Tim Birch

    Thanks for opening up the can of worms.
    Are we fake people having fake relationships? Mostly.

    Authentic? Not! Stuffy, uptight and false to themselves. Nudists do not like you taking their pictures. Why is that?

    Guilt, fear and shame. Way cool way to control the cattle.
    Oh, the guilty pleasure of getting a obscure Dr. Who reference.(Yes, Cybermen can be defeated with gold. But, only if fired from a glitter gun.)

    Advice to use. Take notes on your friends. Start the ‘I like because’ list like in Chicken Soup book. Also more information you can ref b4 you meet again, use a Farley File(President used to read file on people before meeting again to appear to be remembering)

    So who are your friends and what do you know about them? Favorite foods, colors, dis-likes. Collect info to remind them later and build a deeper connection. They’ll think you have a great memory too! Feel free to invent some good stuff that never happened. Most folks don’t remember much so slip in some goodies.(Dr. Bandler loves that stuff)I swear I did not…with… And yet they are certain I was the guy.

    Chairman Covey’s dreaded ‘Emotional Bank Account’. Deposits better exceed withdraws. Not returning my calls, that costs you. Miss a appointment, not happy making. Having your way with my now ex-girlfriend? Gee Kurt we don’t talk much anymore.

    My definition of a friend is kinda harsh: cover my back in a knife fight. I will pick you up from the hospital after you wreck the truck and get a blood test for your Extreme DUI. 30 days in the hole sucks. Sheriff Joe a friend of yours? “Come here on vacation, leave on Probation.”

    I recommend you map out your ‘connections’ and file the information. Then ask ‘Who else have knowledge of my friends?’ Get help with ‘I like because’ lists. Learn NLP meta-programs! I am so Moving Away from(not really;) Put people in boxes for fun and profit.(not real boxes, that be Undertakers Job)

    Long Copy sells because they think it is all about them. And they are right when it comes to the ‘I like because’ list! I have to check with Lisa see if she still has hers.

    “I like the Nerds because they always deliver more than can possibly be expected.”

    Hopefully you cover how often you need to contact people to maintain connections. Posting once a month is just not enough to keep the connections strong. Train your friends to treat you nicer.

    Tim,
    the 150 proof guy

    PS I say send out your Christmas cards in July. and then again in December!(send some to friends you’d like to have. Just like in the psyche test Dr. Kevin Hogan did when he was teaching)

    Damn it! I did this instead of my project!!!

    • http://mynotetakingnerd.com Note Taking Nerd #2

      Tim,

      One program I’ve found that’s helped me go deep with friends, family and clients has been Tony Robbin’s Creating Lasting Change workbook.

      There’s all kinds of questions in there that take you deep (meta-programs, beliefs, values) into the thinking of someone and help stimulate conversational magic. Eben’s program wasn’t what I expected and I’m pleasantly surprised. It’s light years beyond “Networking” and is almost entirely focused on fixing you so that what you bring to any interaction is worthy of world class company.

      As for your question of how often do you need to contact people to maintain connections, if you’re writing a blog and that’s the center of your marketing hub and all sites rotate around it, it shouldn’t be less than once a week. Marketers like Early to Rise, Copyblogger and The Total Package show up 6 days a week, sometimes twice a day (one for the content, the other for an offer). And, they don’t just settle for RSS feed. They want email addresses to send offers to and to pull you to the site.

      Thanks for telling me I’m being a lazy bum with the site! :-) Now get to work on your project you goofball. No excuses soldier.

      Talk soon,
      Note Taking Nerd #2

      UPDATE: Just got an email today that says Copyblogger’s going to a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday schedule and taking long weekends off for the remainder of the summer.

  • Tim Birch

    I promise to 50-50-30 early on. And do my own work!

    Sucks that our ‘Friends’ drive our waistlines and bottom lines. Hint get skinny rich friends and reap the rewards!(get skinny by working your ass off!)

    Don’t leave your structure to chance. Create your world. Inside out then go outside in.

  • Tim Birch

    I promise to 50-50-30 early on. And do my own work!

    Sucks that our ‘Friends’ drive our waistlines and bottom lines. Hint get skinny rich friends and reap the rewards!(get skinny by working your ass off!)

    Don’t leave your structure to chance. Create your world. Inside out then go outside in.

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  • grego

    “If you go buy a latte, you lose your money and once you’ve downed the latte, you’ve lost that too.” Love that! But, it’s the experience!

    “Research shows that in America that the average person has .75 best friends, confidants they can confide in. That means 25% of Americans don’t have someone to lean on.” That is amazing. Wow! I guess I now better understand the “need” so many people have for IM gurus, self-help gurus, etc.

    “Take the 5 people you hang out with most and average out their weight, money, study habits, pretty much anything and that’s what you’ll have showing up in your life.”
    I see and hear this over and over, but at least in my life, it’s not true. I doubt it’s true for others, too. Mabye it has to do with how you’re programmed? Especially early… Wait… if I only have “.75 friends”, where do those “5 people” come from?? ;)
    I think the reason for that “5 people average” concept is actually this: PEOPLE SURROUND THEMSELVES WITH PEOPLE THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH. This also has a lot to do with fear.

    “With this realization comes great responsibility because with great power, comes great responsibility and who are we not to exploit this gift?”
    And that’s probably the reason for most of the troubles of the times. Great opportunity, great responsibility, great power.

    “Commonality causes this, the more unusual or weird the better.”
    I don’t know, man. It could make it worse, too–knowing the other person is a weirdo, can be pretty freaky…

    One of these days, I’ll get on Facebook… Though if there’s much to say to most, I prefer email or a phone call. What the heck, $1 to call someone and chat for a while?? If they’re not worth that, are they really your friend?

    When everyone asks why I’m not on Facebook, I ask why I should be, and most can’t answer. It’s interesting when people who grew up in the same area, but had no common interests and never spoke to each other at the time, are suddenly “friends” on social media sites… and the “friendship” somehow often loses its flavor after any type of “real life” meeting…

    grego

    Part of my no-buy decision back during report sale time (when there were Paypal problems) was the momentary, or better yet, unsettling period of silence/ lack of connection on the blog! That was $200 I really wanted to go forward with, but… Was anyone still home? Was anyone sick, in the hospital for a while, or even …? (The mention of sickness and then a period of silence on the blog was not conducive to sales, eh!) I prayed for you both, hoped things were going better. Sometimes, it’s not just trust, but knowing someone will be there, even if you know you can trust them.

    Your posts are great! Still one of the few websites I check regularly.

    • Tim

      Grego, these guys have been consistently inconsistent!

      I am a raving fan, this removes all doubt. I have had the same problems with the Nerds as you. I have been through too many of the same Trainings and I have bond that way.

      They never promised us a update. No date driven drivel. Others train their customer’s to expect a new piece on a set schedule. Remember ‘Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.’?

      We don’t come here for the same old same old stuff. The Nerds serve it up with a dash and a bit of spice. We have been told this is a hobby for them. So what?

      To buy or not to buy is up to you. So who benefits less? Personally, I think they write this Notes for themselves. Letting us buy them is truly a gift. I have spent years chasing this information down. Wasted countless hours on drivel and B.S. stories. Been down the Rabbit hole. No bunny there.

      Congrats we are in the .5% Club. We the ‘Willing’ are here and Posting. I challenge you to learn and to grow. This is a great site.

      Look at all the stuff they just give away! Just download all of it and print it out. Pure gold just falls off the pages, if you can see it. Do your eyes see the gold?

      The Nerds need your money less than you do. How you apply what you learn matters to you, not to anyone else. We are all in this together, alone. We come in that way and we leave the same way. Dance in Sun while you can. I choose to save my sunshine time by buying Notes from the Nerds.

      Tim
      The 150 proof results guy

      • http://mynotetakingnerd.com Note Taking Nerd #2

        Timbo,

        You da man!!!

        You’re such a raving fan! Sometimes I wonder if people think you’re my brother posting here, hehehe. But anyone here reading this who might’ve wondered that, rest assured I wouldn’t have just settled for one “Tim”. I’d a put the whole family on the team, distant cousins, brother and sister in-laws and all hahahaha!

        I appreciate that you appreciate what we do here Tim and I can’t wait for you to get done with your vacation so I can crack the whip on you again :-D

        Talk soon,
        N2

      • Bruce Brodeen

        I have to second Tim – I don’t have much time to post any blogs except my own and the ones related to building my businesses so you don’t see me much here.

        That said, I can only second Tim’s sentiment as a NTN fan – one that digests, uses and applies.

        No one has had the balls to do this, so I’m only thankful and been very happy w/ the many hundreds of dollars thrown the Nerds’ way the last year – and relieved, glad and excited to see their return.

        No explanation needed – we’re all overly busy, fried and motivated to get moving w/ it all!

        Bring it on,
        Bruce

        • http://mynotetakingnerd.com Note Taking Nerd #2

          BRUCIE!!!

          Hope that doesn’t bug ya Bruce that I called ya Brucie. Tell me if it does and I’ll never use the name again when talking to you. I have a cousin in Denver who’s name is Bruce and ever since he was a tyke, all the way till he became a hulking bruiser of a man, everyone in the family referred to him as “Brucie”. It just brings back good memories.

          Thank you for dropping in and saying “Hello” and for being a fan!!! I consider us lucky to have you on the team Mr. Brodeen!!!

          See ya soon,
          N2

    • http://mynotetakingnerd.com Note Taking Nerd #2

      Hey Grego,

      Thank you so much for putting the thought you did into your post. I. Love. It!!!

      You’re totally right about the Unusual and Weird part. I should have emphasized there that they said that what you disclose to a new acquaintance can be “too” weird. Latex fetishes anyone? The point they were emphasizing that discovering that someone you just met on the street who is a fellow “Eben Pagan Fan” is a lot more unusual and bonds you much closer to that person rather than finding out you tow have a commonality in “Loving Italian Food.”

      This is actually what a site like “Facebook” and blogs like this facilitate. Bringing people with common “unique” interests together. I know that while Facebook is a poor substitute for for one on one interaction that there’s people I know I’m just not gonna be able to see anytime soon, that I can keep up with almost like we were talking daily through this site. Especially if that person is very active there. Also any relationships I’ve rekindled via Facebook have all been done via exchanging phone numbers which is the next best thing to meeting in person.

      For years I shunned it as something teens and kids had fun with but I have come to find it’s sooooo much more. For business purposes, it’s a way to directly message the guru or comment on their content, daily if you wish, which puts you on their radar. Kinda like you have with this comment here. If your customers gather there it allows them to interact with you which is where you learn best how to give them what they want.

      As for your decision to buy or not buy Grego, I agree that you should’ve felt the way you did. To expect a different reaction would’ve been insane. And I’m delighted to have you here giving me that feedback. It would’ve been easy for you to just read these notes and move on about your day. THANK YOU SO MUCH GREGO!!!

      Talk soon,
      Note Taking Nerd #2

  • grego

    “If you go buy a latte, you lose your money and once you’ve downed the latte, you’ve lost that too.” Love that! But, it’s the experience!

    “Research shows that in America that the average person has .75 best friends, confidants they can confide in. That means 25% of Americans don’t have someone to lean on.” That is amazing. Wow! I guess I now better understand the “need” so many people have for IM gurus, self-help gurus, etc.

    “Take the 5 people you hang out with most and average out their weight, money, study habits, pretty much anything and that’s what you’ll have showing up in your life.”
    I see and hear this over and over, but at least in my life, it’s not true. I doubt it’s true for others, too. Mabye it has to do with how you’re programmed? Especially early… Wait… if I only have “.75 friends”, where do those “5 people” come from?? ;)
    I think the reason for that “5 people average” concept is actually this: PEOPLE SURROUND THEMSELVES WITH PEOPLE THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH. This also has a lot to do with fear.

    “With this realization comes great responsibility because with great power, comes great responsibility and who are we not to exploit this gift?”
    And that’s probably the reason for most of the troubles of the times. Great opportunity, great responsibility, great power.

    “Commonality causes this, the more unusual or weird the better.”
    I don’t know, man. It could make it worse, too–knowing the other person is a weirdo, can be pretty freaky…

    One of these days, I’ll get on Facebook… Though if there’s much to say to most, I prefer email or a phone call. What the heck, $1 to call someone and chat for a while?? If they’re not worth that, are they really your friend?

    When everyone asks why I’m not on Facebook, I ask why I should be, and most can’t answer. It’s interesting when people who grew up in the same area, but had no common interests and never spoke to each other at the time, are suddenly “friends” on social media sites… and the “friendship” somehow often loses its flavor after any type of “real life” meeting…

    grego

    Part of my no-buy decision back during report sale time (when there were Paypal problems) was the momentary, or better yet, unsettling period of silence/ lack of connection on the blog! That was $200 I really wanted to go forward with, but… Was anyone still home? Was anyone sick, in the hospital for a while, or even …? (The mention of sickness and then a period of silence on the blog was not conducive to sales, eh!) I prayed for you both, hoped things were going better. Sometimes, it’s not just trust, but knowing someone will be there, even if you know you can trust them.

    Your posts are great! Still one of the few websites I check regularly.

    • Tim

      Grego, these guys have been consistently inconsistent!

      I am a raving fan, this removes all doubt. I have had the same problems with the Nerds as you. I have been through too many of the same Trainings and I have bond that way.

      They never promised us a update. No date driven drivel. Others train their customer’s to expect a new piece on a set schedule. Remember ‘Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.’?

      We don’t come here for the same old same old stuff. The Nerds serve it up with a dash and a bit of spice. We have been told this is a hobby for them. So what?

      To buy or not to buy is up to you. So who benefits less? Personally, I think they write this Notes for themselves. Letting us buy them is truly a gift. I have spent years chasing this information down. Wasted countless hours on drivel and B.S. stories. Been down the Rabbit hole. No bunny there.

      Congrats we are in the .5% Club. We the ‘Willing’ are here and Posting. I challenge you to learn and to grow. This is a great site.

      Look at all the stuff they just give away! Just download all of it and print it out. Pure gold just falls off the pages, if you can see it. Do your eyes see the gold?

      The Nerds need your money less than you do. How you apply what you learn matters to you, not to anyone else. We are all in this together, alone. We come in that way and we leave the same way. Dance in Sun while you can. I choose to save my sunshine time by buying Notes from the Nerds.

      Tim
      The 150 proof results guy

      • http://mynotetakingnerd.com Note Taking Nerd #2

        Timbo,

        You da man!!!

        You’re such a raving fan! Sometimes I wonder if people think you’re my brother posting here, hehehe. But anyone here reading this who might’ve wondered that, rest assured I wouldn’t have just settled for one “Tim”. I’d a put the whole family on the team, distant cousins, brother and sister in-laws and all hahahaha!

        I appreciate that you appreciate what we do here Tim and I can’t wait for you to get done with your vacation so I can crack the whip on you again :-D

        Talk soon,
        N2

      • Bruce Brodeen

        I have to second Tim – I don’t have much time to post any blogs except my own and the ones related to building my businesses so you don’t see me much here.

        That said, I can only second Tim’s sentiment as a NTN fan – one that digests, uses and applies.

        No one has had the balls to do this, so I’m only thankful and been very happy w/ the many hundreds of dollars thrown the Nerds’ way the last year – and relieved, glad and excited to see their return.

        No explanation needed – we’re all overly busy, fried and motivated to get moving w/ it all!

        Bring it on,
        Bruce

        • http://mynotetakingnerd.com Note Taking Nerd #2

          BRUCIE!!!

          Hope that doesn’t bug ya Bruce that I called ya Brucie. Tell me if it does and I’ll never use the name again when talking to you. I have a cousin in Denver who’s name is Bruce and ever since he was a tyke, all the way till he became a hulking bruiser of a man, everyone in the family referred to him as “Brucie”. It just brings back good memories.

          Thank you for dropping in and saying “Hello” and for being a fan!!! I consider us lucky to have you on the team Mr. Brodeen!!!

          See ya soon,
          N2

    • http://mynotetakingnerd.com Note Taking Nerd #2

      Hey Grego,

      Thank you so much for putting the thought you did into your post. I. Love. It!!!

      You’re totally right about the Unusual and Weird part. I should have emphasized there that they said that what you disclose to a new acquaintance can be “too” weird. Latex fetishes anyone? The point they were emphasizing that discovering that someone you just met on the street who is a fellow “Eben Pagan Fan” is a lot more unusual and bonds you much closer to that person rather than finding out you tow have a commonality in “Loving Italian Food.”

      This is actually what a site like “Facebook” and blogs like this facilitate. Bringing people with common “unique” interests together. I know that while Facebook is a poor substitute for for one on one interaction that there’s people I know I’m just not gonna be able to see anytime soon, that I can keep up with almost like we were talking daily through this site. Especially if that person is very active there. Also any relationships I’ve rekindled via Facebook have all been done via exchanging phone numbers which is the next best thing to meeting in person.

      For years I shunned it as something teens and kids had fun with but I have come to find it’s sooooo much more. For business purposes, it’s a way to directly message the guru or comment on their content, daily if you wish, which puts you on their radar. Kinda like you have with this comment here. If your customers gather there it allows them to interact with you which is where you learn best how to give them what they want.

      As for your decision to buy or not buy Grego, I agree that you should’ve felt the way you did. To expect a different reaction would’ve been insane. And I’m delighted to have you here giving me that feedback. It would’ve been easy for you to just read these notes and move on about your day. THANK YOU SO MUCH GREGO!!!

      Talk soon,
      Note Taking Nerd #2

  • grego

    NTN #2,

    Actually, I usually like the personal posts better than the Eben Pagan posts… :) For example, I feel the Facebook post (grab the internet, 50 Cent, etc.) was more valuable than this one. Personal posts also allow more personality (both #1 and #2) to come through, which is something most of the programs you report on just can’t match.

    “Latex fetishes anyone?”
    That brings up memories of a dating show (The Dating Game with Chuck?) episode, where the winner got the date by talking about his drinking his bath water fetish. Remember–it’s not so much what you say, but how you say it.

    “Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday schedule and taking long weekends off for the remainder of the summer.”
    That’s what summers are for! (BTW, I’ve noticed that one prominent multi-millionaire psych guy reruns many of his articles when he doesn’t have time to write the weeklies.)

    Tim,
    I’m not rich, but I am a little skinny… ;) Now if I can just find five guys that bench 450lbs to hang out with…

    • http://mynotetakingnerd.com Note Taking Nerd #2

      Grego,

      You busted me.

      When I’m being lazy I use notes I’ve taken and post them here to at least give you something. But you’re the first person who’s ever called me out and said they prefer my “Whackiness laced with wisdom” to “Just the facts, maam.” Thank you SO MUCH for your encouraging words!!!

      “…winner got the date by talking about drinking his bath water fetish.”
      This is fucking HUH-LARIOUS!!! I just added that to my facebook profile under “Interests.” And yeah, I totally get that it’s not so much what you say but how you say it. A prime example of this is while Eben is the KING at this moment IMHO, of the internet marketing industry, he doesn’t put much stank on the content that makes it sing. The revelations keep you coming back but you have to be a hardcore student to stick by his side because there ain’t a whole lot of entertaining go on in his marketing/content delivery. In Dan Kennedy’s Advanced Copywriting Bootcamp he held a couple a years ago, he cited that this was a critical factor to keeping people coming back to your seminars, you know, sending them home with fun stories to tell their friends and what not. And he just wrote a whole book titled “Make ‘em Laugh and Take Their Money” which speaks even further to this point of people wanting hybrid content.

      And on the recycling the content front… I’ve noticed a few of the marketing guys doing the same thing and the only way I knew was because I’d posted on their blog and then I’d see I was getting traffic here, from there, a year later. For the new people to the list and people that didn’t read it the first time, it’s just as good as new. And hell, if it’s solid message, repetition is the mother of skill, isn’t it?

      I’m laughing at your 450lbs comment. The reason I’m laughing is because I can remember back when I very first started lifting weights it was with the Chief. He’s a life long fan of body building and you team that up with his desire to get the edge in whatever field he’s playing in, and you’ve got a potent recipe for success. His passion allowed him to train guys to get in the peak shape of their life for national bodybuilding competitions. I just happened to go along for the ride and started training with him and one of his clients. I can still remember the first day I trained with him, he had me doing dumbbell shoulder presses with 20 pounders and I could barely coordinate the motion let alone feebly drive the weights up. Well, just so happens it was some girls day for a shoulder workout too and so she brushes past us, goes to the rack, picks up the 30′s and just starts blowing ‘em out perfectly without any strain AT ALL. FUCK THAT!!! hahaha Well, both the Chief and I are students at heart and so I listened to everything he told me to do and I read every muscle magazine/book he had, watched training videos, got on a six meal-a-day diet and primo supplements, (beef-liver pills, amino acids, creatine, gallon of water a day, egg white protein powder shake being the most disgusting things I ever ingested, etc.) and took my 125 body and at peak hit 178 pounds of snarling twisted muscle. My little chicken legs got to where I could dead lift about 450 pounds and I could squat 335 pounds. All of this happened within 1 year. And it all happened through immersing myself into a group of 5 that made it one of their primary purposes in life to pack on as much muscle as possible. That’s just a small example from my life of what can happen through the power of association. If I could pull this off with my anorexic genes, I’m sure you could too. Thank you for actually reminding me of it as I’m looking to whip my ass into shape again. :-D

      Talk to you soon Grego,

  • grego

    NTN #2,

    Actually, I usually like the personal posts better than the Eben Pagan posts… :) For example, I feel the Facebook post (grab the internet, 50 Cent, etc.) was more valuable than this one. Personal posts also allow more personality (both #1 and #2) to come through, which is something most of the programs you report on just can’t match.

    “Latex fetishes anyone?”
    That brings up memories of a dating show (The Dating Game with Chuck?) episode, where the winner got the date by talking about his drinking his bath water fetish. Remember–it’s not so much what you say, but how you say it.

    “Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday schedule and taking long weekends off for the remainder of the summer.”
    That’s what summers are for! (BTW, I’ve noticed that one prominent multi-millionaire psych guy reruns many of his articles when he doesn’t have time to write the weeklies.)

    Tim,
    I’m not rich, but I am a little skinny… ;) Now if I can just find five guys that bench 450lbs to hang out with…

    • http://mynotetakingnerd.com Note Taking Nerd #2

      Grego,

      You busted me.

      When I’m being lazy I use notes I’ve taken and post them here to at least give you something. But you’re the first person who’s ever called me out and said they prefer my “Whackiness laced with wisdom” to “Just the facts, maam.” Thank you SO MUCH for your encouraging words!!!

      “…winner got the date by talking about drinking his bath water fetish.”
      This is fucking HUH-LARIOUS!!! I just added that to my facebook profile under “Interests.” And yeah, I totally get that it’s not so much what you say but how you say it. A prime example of this is while Eben is the KING at this moment IMHO, of the internet marketing industry, he doesn’t put much stank on the content that makes it sing. The revelations keep you coming back but you have to be a hardcore student to stick by his side because there ain’t a whole lot of entertaining go on in his marketing/content delivery. In Dan Kennedy’s Advanced Copywriting Bootcamp he held a couple a years ago, he cited that this was a critical factor to keeping people coming back to your seminars, you know, sending them home with fun stories to tell their friends and what not. And he just wrote a whole book titled “Make ‘em Laugh and Take Their Money” which speaks even further to this point of people wanting hybrid content.

      And on the recycling the content front… I’ve noticed a few of the marketing guys doing the same thing and the only way I knew was because I’d posted on their blog and then I’d see I was getting traffic here, from there, a year later. For the new people to the list and people that didn’t read it the first time, it’s just as good as new. And hell, if it’s solid message, repetition is the mother of skill, isn’t it?

      I’m laughing at your 450lbs comment. The reason I’m laughing is because I can remember back when I very first started lifting weights it was with the Chief. He’s a life long fan of body building and you team that up with his desire to get the edge in whatever field he’s playing in, and you’ve got a potent recipe for success. His passion allowed him to train guys to get in the peak shape of their life for national bodybuilding competitions. I just happened to go along for the ride and started training with him and one of his clients. I can still remember the first day I trained with him, he had me doing dumbbell shoulder presses with 20 pounders and I could barely coordinate the motion let alone feebly drive the weights up. Well, just so happens it was some girls day for a shoulder workout too and so she brushes past us, goes to the rack, picks up the 30′s and just starts blowing ‘em out perfectly without any strain AT ALL. FUCK THAT!!! hahaha Well, both the Chief and I are students at heart and so I listened to everything he told me to do and I read every muscle magazine/book he had, watched training videos, got on a six meal-a-day diet and primo supplements, (beef-liver pills, amino acids, creatine, gallon of water a day, egg white protein powder shake being the most disgusting things I ever ingested, etc.) and took my 125 body and at peak hit 178 pounds of snarling twisted muscle. My little chicken legs got to where I could dead lift about 450 pounds and I could squat 335 pounds. All of this happened within 1 year. And it all happened through immersing myself into a group of 5 that made it one of their primary purposes in life to pack on as much muscle as possible. That’s just a small example from my life of what can happen through the power of association. If I could pull this off with my anorexic genes, I’m sure you could too. Thank you for actually reminding me of it as I’m looking to whip my ass into shape again. :-D

      Talk to you soon Grego,

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